this post was submitted on 28 Jun 2026
139 points (89.7% liked)

me_irl

7967 readers
1597 users here now

All posts need to have the same title: me_irl it is allowed to use an emoji instead of the underscore _

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
top 47 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 55 minutes ago

How do you dare to tell me that I'm my father's son
When that was just an accident of birth
I'd rather look around me, compose a better song
'Cause that's the honest measure of my worth

Well, at 36 i was still begining to understand how they fucked me up lol, still working on getting over it lmao

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 20 points 3 hours ago (8 children)

He accidentally made an argument for not blaming your parents since you'd move out of the building rather than continue moving to various floors in it.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 points 28 minutes ago

No no, is everyone else's fault. Take no blame yourself! That's the key!

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 25 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

Yeah, at a certain point, you can continue to blame them, but the responsibility to fix it ultimately falls on you regardless. Go ahead and blame them, but don’t use it as an excuse to not work on yourself and improve.

[–] BewareOfIdiot@nord.pub 16 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Like most difficulties in life, be it trauma, neurodivergance, or any number of other issues; they're explanations, not excuses.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Much like mental illness. Your depression doesn't stop you from working out or going for a walk, but it might make it really really hard to start. You can use that as an excuse and never start or you can acknowledge this is why you never want to start. You just have to do it, or rely on someone to get you to do it like a good friend or partner.

If you let depression stop you from walking you'll never walk and get the benefits from it which could help you beat or mitigate depression. Maybe after 2 years of daily walks you won't be depression free, but its almost guaranteed you'll be doing better.

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 5 points 2 hours ago

Wow thanks I’m cured.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Or you can just die which depression sometimes leads to -- like it's a disease. How come some people survive cancer and some don't? The disease is different for each person. Same with depression.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Not doing things like walking or other things that have been proven good for mental health when you have depression is akin to not getting treatment for cancer. Some people still die from cancer while on treatments, but a lot more of them survive than the ones that don't attempt treatment.

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Blame is a mechanism specifically designed to absolve oneself of responsibility. "Hey, I just wanted to let everyone know this fucked up thing I do is because my mom didn't tie my shoelaces properly.". The people affected by your actions don't need to know why you do this fucked up thing, they just want you to stop doing it to them.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It can be, and is often used that way, but it doesn't have to be.

And, generally, knowing the root causes of problems helps in best figuring out how to fix them.

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 1 points 41 minutes ago

My therapist mentioned its 80% awareness, 20% adding effective skills. But it can take a long ass time to rewire the engrained habits with new neuropathways habitually remembering and applying effective skills

[–] fork@feddit.online 3 points 2 hours ago

There are some things that can't be fixed. Being physically impacted by a decision your parent made can't just be undone, depending on what it is. It could be intentional or it could be an accident, but it's still permanent.

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

Or, better yet, rather than blaming, realize they are flawed like all people, and that they accidentally or purposefully instilled some bad qualities in you - the sort all people have.

Be mindful of the origin of those bad qualities and how you have acted over the years to reinforce them. Then, knowing the origin of your bad behaviors and ways of thinking, you can improve.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Go on then, fix the foundations of society... Fix the whole economic/political system of Capitalism.

Do it. It's clearly about generational problems and the wealth structures of society.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

I’ll stick to myself thanks. That’s enough of a challenge.

[–] executivechimp@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

If each floor of the building is a year in your life, what does moving out mean in this metaphor?

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 2 points 47 minutes ago

Therapy? Self-Realization? Ego Death?

[–] PoastRotato@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You can't really move out though. The metaphor is that your parents construct the lower floors of your building based on how they raised you. In real life, you can't un-raise yourself or rewrite history, so moving out and into a new building with better foundations isn't an option. Best you can do is get some outside help to throw in some external supports for those shaky lower floors.

[–] schwim@piefed.zip -2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

As a 50+ yo that cut contact with his parents decades ago, I know that you can most definitely move out. I am aware that many of my negative behaviors were formed in my early years due in large part to my upbringing but there came a point in my life where I was aware they were due in totality to me choosing to continue those behaviors. Although I will never be confused with a saint, I'm a much better person and my choices in how I behave have absolutely nothing to do with my upbringing. The old building with the bad foundation hasn't been part of my life for decades.

The analogy is the embodiment of victim mentality, meant to help a person feel powerless regarding why they make poor choices. Staying in that building is a choice each person makes. It's not a prison.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

You can find new role models, you can build new supports for those weaker floors and maybe even completely renovate some of them with enough work. You can theorize the new floors you want to build and rework your existing floors to get there.

[–] aln@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Moving out? In this economy???

[–] Planchette_Phantom@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly, this is very validating to hear since I'm about to cut contact with my mother and elder siblings.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Thats a hard decision to make, congrats on having the courage to take that step in your life.

[–] Planchette_Phantom@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 hours ago

Thanks! I ended up homeless twice because of them. Once at 19, and now again at 22 years old. I mean, I'm in a nice emergency shelter with my own bedroom and cooked meals, but still.

At least my family cares if I have a roof over my head, even if I had to couch surf at a friend's house and hide from the landlord and then come into this shelter again (they gave me a place last time, too). I slept in the basement during the last night before coming to this shelter again, just to take extra precautions.

Mind you, I'm not a criminal beyond jaywalking and streaming media for free. Not to toot my own horn, but I'm one of the most straitlaced people at this place. I don't smoke/vape (beyond the once in a blue moon hit of weed), I don't drink alcohol, no other drugs, I don't drink coffee, no energy drinks, and I'm not known for getting into fights.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I read a book about cutting ties to toxic people. I wrote a list and included my parents. Absolute night and day on my mental health and my professional health.

I didn't "cut them" like full on ghosting. But keeping my distance and chatting with them once a year.

I'm rooting for your success.

[–] Planchette_Phantom@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 hour ago

Thank you :). I'm living in an emergency shelter, so I appreciate all the support.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Exactly. If you're 12 and you can't legally be employed and independent, you can very much blame your parents for a lot of your circumstances. As you age this gets less relevant. I have a couple friends in their 30s whom live at home and never really had jobs or finished school. A lot of them still blame their upbringing which could have put them on this path, but at this point the path they continue to walk is their responsibility. Its gonna be hard, its gonna suck sometimes, you're gonna have to take risks and things might get worse before they get better, but taking your own responsibility for it is often your best course of action.

Sometimes being able to blame yourself for certain things is good, it can help you grow and learn. If your parents have failed you for 30 years, why are you still banking on them as part of your plan? Not to say you have to abandon them full stop, they may still be worth keeping in your life but you have to start directing your own life and taking your own responsibility for it.

Maybe your parents didn't care enough about school when you were a kid, as an adult its time to take that into your own hands, many places offer free high school equivalence programs to catch up and often help get you employed afterwards. It might be a shitty job, but its not their fault you waited til 30 to start and now have no relevant skills or experience to advertise. Work that shitty job for a few months and at least it becomes a point on your resume for the next job. It can let you develop universal skills like time management and meal planning which can better prepare you for future positions.

I can't blame you if you didn't get a head start, but i can blame you if you don't even participate in the game.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

So you don't understand metaphor?

Go on then - "move out" and build a new society... Whilst you're at it, stop aging or "moving up floors".

Fucking how are people so munted they don't understand metaphor?

[–] schwim@piefed.zip -4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That reads like you most often breathe through your mouth.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Believe it or not, some people can read and write without having to mouth the words.

[–] schwim@piefed.zip -4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Ooh and you downvote, what a chad!

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] schwim@piefed.zip 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

That’s sure one way to sit in a chair lol

[–] raman_klogius@ani.social 4 points 2 hours ago

Next thing you know you're noticing his elbows!

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 4 points 2 hours ago

I mean by this logic, they can blame the parents for teaching them to sit like that?

[–] amlor@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You can stop blaming them if they are dead or no-contact, sure

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Their choices still leave last effects, not just on you, but on society. I mean boomers tend to vote a certain way. Generational issues tend to cause the "bad foundation".

[–] amlor@piefed.social 2 points 1 hour ago

I'm not arguing with that

[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago

But you need sort your brain until development is thru, 39 years old.

[–] iatenine@piefed.social 0 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

The word "all" in this post says "all" you need to know about how pathetic OP (as in who initially wrote it) truly is

[–] Planchette_Phantom@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Nah, just me trying to cope while I'm homeless and about to cut contact with my mother and elder siblings. I'm trying to survive and am actively working on myself, but suffer from legitimate disorders resulting from trauma–one of them is severe enough that I can't hold down a job, even though I've actively tried.

[–] iatenine@piefed.social 2 points 1 hour ago

Now that I can understand and even relate (previously homeless, NC with one of my parents) so I get the need to cope in that situation, even if you know the statements aren't 100% accurate

Bro what are you being such a dick for?